Glory to God for all things, may we all be given repentance. May Panagia, The Heavenly Bodiless Hosts - Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and all the orders, the Holy Baptist, and all saints intercede for our repentance. May God protect our Geronda from the malice of the enemy.
It's unbelievable that they dare to censor these important details from the lives of Saints. The same thing has been done with the original publications concerning Fr. Seraphim Rose.
@@OrthodoxDialectics ("Little Children, It is the Last Hour"(I John2:18) Unknown to the fevered Orthodox "revivalists," the Lord God has preserved in the world, even as in the days of Elijah the Prophet, seven thousand men “who have not bowed the knee to Baal (Rom. 11:4) - an unknown number of true Orthodox Christians who are neither spiritually dead, as the Orthodox ''charismatics" complain that their flocks have been, nor pompously ''spirit-filled,'' as these same flocks become under "charismatic" suggestion. They are not carried away by the movement of apostasy nor by any false "awakening ,' but continue rooted in the holy and saving Faith of Holy Orthodoxy in the tradition the Holy Fathers have handed down to them, watching the Signs of the times and travelling the narrow path to salvation. Many of them follow the bishops of the few Orthodox jurisdictions that have taken strong stands against the apostasy of our times: the Catacomb Church of Russia, the Russian Church Outside of Russia, the True Orthodox Christians (Old Calendarists) of Greece. But there are some left in other jurisdictions also, grieving over the ever more evident apostasy of their hierarchs and striving somehow to keep their own Orthodoxy intact; and there are still others outside of the Orthodox Church who by God's grace, their hearts being open to His call, will undoubtedly yet be joined to genuine Holy Orthodoxy. These "seven thousand" are the foundation of the future and only Orthodoxy of the latter times.” - Hieromonk Seraphim (Rose) of Platina: Orthodoxy and The religion of the future (Page 220 Uncensored) Page 184 Censored.)
@@OrthodoxDialectics "Little Children, It is the Last Hour"(I John2:18) Unknown to the fevered Orthodox "revivalists," the Lord God has preserved in the world, even as in the days of Elijah the Prophet, seven thousand men “who have not bowed the knee to Baal (Rom. 11:4) - an unknown number of true Orthodox Christians who are neither spiritually dead, as the Orthodox ''charismatics" complain that their flocks have been, nor pompously ''spirit-filled,'' as these same flocks become under "charismatic" suggestion. They are not carried away by the movement of apostasy nor by any false "awakening ,' but continue rooted in the holy and saving Faith of Holy Orthodoxy in the tradition the Holy Fathers have handed down to them, watching the Signs of the times and travelling the narrow path to salvation. Many of them follow the bishops of the few Orthodox jurisdictions that have taken strong stands against the apostasy of our times: the Catacomb Church of Russia, the Russian Church Outside of Russia, the True Orthodox Christians (Old Calendarists) of Greece. But there are some left in other jurisdictions also, grieving over the ever more evident apostasy of their hierarchs and striving somehow to keep their own Orthodoxy intact; and there are still others outside of the Orthodox Church who by God's grace, their hearts being open to His call, will undoubtedly yet be joined to genuine Holy Orthodoxy. These "seven thousand" are the foundation of the future and only Orthodoxy of the latter times.” - Hieromonk Seraphim (Rose) of Platina: Orthodoxy and The religion of the future (Page 220 Uncensored) Page 184 Censored.
To those quarreling. It’s a device of the enemy. Instead, read the Athonite Gerontikon “On Heresies and Other Religions”. Your perspective will be edified and enlightened. I don’t think YT will allow me to link it, but it’s easily found in any search engine.
A schismatic is one who is outside the canonical Orthodox Church. One must never commemorate a heretical bishop but rather pray for his return to the Truth of Christ.
I'm asking this a as a genuine question and I don't know the context of the video but shouldn't we wait for the bishop in question to be condemned as heretic before taking such actions ?
@@alexmoreau2581Good question! Saint Paul says "After the first or second admonition reject a man that is an heretic". The Church has this as it's formal policy before a council is held. In Greece, the faithful tried to bring the bishops to repentance for 10 years before "walling themselves off". In Russia and the Balkans, since the outward persecution began before the invasion of the traditional structure of the church, this happened much quicker. This is the witness of the Church. If you go through the saints for any day of the year, you will find at least a third of them were not in communion with the "official" "church". Those who preach Ecumenism, Sergianism, and Modernism are anathematized. This means we leave them to God's judgement, and have no communion with them. The saints teach that to commerate a heretic is to share in his heresy. We don't know how God's grace and judgement apply to them. We cannot contaminate the Faith once for all delivered to the saints, preserved to our day.
I am an American convert to a Serbian Orthodox church. I know very little about my patriarch or my bishop for that matter. We are old calendar and I am still learning and growing in the Lord. I honestly don't know what to do regarding this matter, l feel unqualified to even tell if a bishop or patriarch were heretical. Unless it was something blatantly obvious.
Don't listen to schismatics like this. Continue growing in the Orthodox faith and participate in the life of the Church. As long as your priest is administering the Sacraments and is preaching Orthodox Christianity, you don't have anything to worry about. Geopolitical nonsense is not your concern and has no bearing on your salvation.
@CosmicMystery7 Somehow, you didn't get the message. St. John the Romanian would consider you the schismatic, not MetropolitanDemetrius. The other incorrupt Saint, Metropolitan Philaret of New York, also considered the New Calendarists the schismatics.
@@OrthodoxTraditionso you would rather people not go to church at all? You only have 31 or so parishes in the ENTIRE UNITED STATES. Also are the Georgians and Bulgarians “heretical”?
Those who call Metropolitan Demetrios a schismatic, are WRONG! They keep trying to convince themselves even though their conscience pricks them! Isn't that a blasphemy?
Schism is one thing a heretic is another he doesn't receive communion with any of the canonical Orthodox churches so that clearly means there is a schism
Even so: It therefore seemed best to those who dealt with the subject in the beginning to rule that the attitude of heretics should be set aside entirely; but as for those who have merely split apart as a schism, they were to be considered as still belonging to the church. St. Basil the Great
🙏🏼 This must be true. Because I believe that helpers and angels come from your church. And they can come to comfort and help people even if those people have no knowledge of the church at all. Can't get more real than when you see the real orthodox Christian monks in the spiritual before you know the church, that is a sign of how real you are! I'm absolutely sure of that anyway🌹
Yes, and it's true. And many of the type of Christians who believe that it is only possible to have meetings with Jesus. I have heard so many times that they talk about how Jesus came to me this time in a different form and appearance than last time.. but I don't believe that. .I think he has his own appearance. The real orthodox christian saints are given this power, for sure.
Those closest to us and so called believers will stop us of everything, they sucked the life out of me, my livelihood, my identity, resoureses, I still did good for them cared for them gave everything. Then they slander you, steal everything and get others to help them. God help me rise again, they only took, they want me down left me empty traumatized, with nothing, now my home😭but I will still love, so they can have more. Restore my safety home, Please pray for me father🥰🙏🌺I am so tired. I never knew people were so evil. They will leave you dead. I am trying to fast , I mess us, focus on God.
God give to you His love and mercy. May you get a deeper relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ through His love for us sinners. The pain He went through for us sinners to free us into Him.
I know in my own life this has happened. At the time, I was so hurt, but years later, I saw I was being tested. At the time, I was blinded by the constant betrayals and slander. I gave into my hurt feelings and lingered in self-pity. I am week in my own shortsighted understanding. For two decades, I languished. I did pray constantly in secret, crying, pleading with God to help me. Finally, my youngest son came to me and said he believed that I needed to go to an Orthodox Church. I have been attending and learning a whole new perspective on what living as a Christian is. I have a new struggle now. I agree with the Prophet Isaiah, Lo, for my welfare, I had great bitterness, it is You who has kept my soul from the pit of nothingness, for You have cast all my sins behind my Your back. The only comfort I know is that God has made a way for my sins to be forgiven and my wounds to be healed in his love and mercies. His mercies are for all who seek him and tremble at his word. I pray for myself and for all who suffer, Glory to God for our suffering and hope.
Дорогі во Христі отці та брати Слава Ісусу Христу! Спасибі Вам, що своїм життям намагаєтесь наслідувати Христа в монашому чині, це велика справа і благословений шлях до Небесного Єрусалиму. Бажаю досягти досконалості та перемоги над страстями. Прошу молитов братніх за нашу страждальну Україну і її нарід та Церкву Христову. З повагою, у Господі з любови брат Віталій многогрішний раб Божий і ваш покірний слуга недостойний. Слава Ісусу Христу! (Західна Україна, Галичина, Калуш). P/S. Добра усім та мирного неба над головою, молімося та борімося за мир Божий в нас і довкола себе! Pax tibi et ora pro nobis.
I agree 100% with this sermon. But who is it saying these words? OCA embraces both calendars! Isn't that whorish? In order to save my soul I need you to sweep clear of heretical contacts. Namely, stay away from jurisdictions connected to new calendar, a jurisdiction historic or church in resistance with the will and courage to be run by traditional Orthodox Christian hierarchs. New calendar has caused division and confusion in the Holy Orthodox churches. Who benefits from this disunifying movement? The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? Or the Adversary?
While i do love and respect Metropolitan Demetrius and the importance of preserving the old calender. however I think saint paisios is a saint without any question. who are we to judge and deny him the kingdom have we become judges now too?😢 for sure the change to new calendars shouldn't never happened period and caused much pain for us russians,greeks,serbs,Romians really hurts deep inside my heart this. I can't imagine all the hate Metropolitan Demetrios received on such emotional topic. 😢 even today poor archbishop gregory of Colorado has received judgments from thousands of new calendars and sadly even the old calenders have denied him salvation as making him dead to christ and instead of christ being the only judge, you me and all of us have pushed christ away and became self righteous judges. very sad hurts me very much 😢 forgive me, but I will not deny christ to anyone neither shall you my dear ones. we are all sinners with weakness. we can't judge archbishop gregory and as to say there is no paradise for him. if he has done wrong let us forgive him and for he too is our brother and so are you. let our HEARTS OPEN FIRST BEFORE OUR MOUTHS PLEASE BROTHERS ♥️🇬🇷☦️ In christ
This is why we say "Anathema". It doesn't mean "accursed" as it is often wrongly translated. It means "to lift up to God". We cannot judge those who preach or follow heresy, because they have separated themselves from the Church.
I am a Catholic making the conversion to Orthodoxy. I can tell you that the Orthodox church is as rife with nonsense as the latin one, from the leadership to the church itself. I will follow Jesus and know that men are flawed. I already forgive them but I will not lower my mind to that worldly nonsense. If I see nonsense, I will take my faith inside of myself and out to the poor and needy. I do not need anything or anyone but Jesus. I hope that I chose a good spiritual father. That he teaches me and opens the way for me, regardless of our archbishop which is currently creating much strife. If this fails I will keep working and praying. I wont think ill of him or anyone else, never that. I am used to being alone. Long ago and forever, I have renounced the world of men. If that is the way then so be it. I pray I can be useful to others. To anyone in a similar path as myself I say carry on. Dont let them change your commitment. We cant judge others. We can only know our own faults. Focus on that. Learn what you must. Do as you are told. Be obedient to your father. If he is flawed in his teachings then you will know through Christ and the saints. They will show you how to obey without forsaking a servant of God. If any flaws are shown, own them and see them as your own as well and do penance. Christ will write straight with crooked lines. Just focus on your path. Renounce the world but not each other. Love is Jesus's way. If this is out of line forgive me. If it is insulting to anyone I apologize. If it seems self centered then so be it, I agree. I am not free from self aggrandizing and these chains are my sin. For that I am sorry If it rings true though, then listen to your heart. Do not lose faith. We have enough disillusioned Christians going their own way. We dont need more. That would just serve the devils purpose.
Part of the reason for Metropolitan Demetrius raising awareness about these Saints, I think, is in direct response to the aggressive ones saying that the GOC is in schism. He tells us that the Saints don't think so. This bishop is not aggressive. Just my two cents.
@@ServantofGod-zj3jd i dont know enough to be able to tell who is in schism or not. I have learned a lot from GOC teachings and I feel that GOC is focused on Jesus and the truth. I didnt even know about many of the controversial members like my own Archbishop. I feel better protected knowing the truth. It cant be bad if what they say is just the truth. If it were a lie then that would be that. Its better to love in truth.
@@numberslettersstuffWhy are you leaving catholicism? (In my view you are still catholic brother not schismatic even if you 'convert' to Eastern Tradition which in itself i respect) But it is very painful for me to see how a lot of orthodox use some benign theological differences to get away from the true catholicism that is about being the universal Church of Christ. The true meaning of ecumenism (how it was understood by the Fathers) must be rediscovered.
@@karlheven8328I think your heart is in the right place… but would any of the orthodox saints or catholic saints or fathers looked at the question this way?
@@esoterico7750 Religious traditions are always evolving while always striving to stay true to their original inherent values in the best possible way. There can be progress in the mutual understanding of theological matters that led to schism and one can thus reconstruct a dialogue that never took place not because of theological differences were impossible to bridge but because of communicational/cultural defects that made a reconciliation fail as it was more often than not (like with the Council of Florence where a Reconciliation would almost have been reached if not for geopolitical and other issues with trust and mutual resentment)
That is NO OT AN ANSWER. speak it out. They need spoon feeding. Ok. No one broke your arm to be a teacher. You wanted your position.ok @@OrthodoxTradition
I have a lot of confusion concerning the old/new calendar. I am a new convert to Orthodox Christianity and my parish is on the new calendar (OCA). Does this mean that I’m not actually Orthodox? I do not mean a disrespect or sarcasm. I’m just really confused by all the controversy around the calendar and old ritual and claims of this or that jurisdiction not being canonical. Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Thank you for your sincere inquiry. Please continue to search. There are other videos on this channel concerning the GOC. See if you have a Church under Metropolitan Demetrius near you, and visit that priest. Coming to the monastery to inquire is the best thing to do.
@@danfsteepleDon't listen to this account? Don't you fear God? The account is from the life of an Orthodox Saint that we all recognize! Have you thought that you might be wrong and that you're participating in something very wrong. From an Orthodox perspective, everything Metropolitan Demetrius is saying is spot-on.
I pray we can all soon be united in the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church 🙏 founded by Jesus Christ while respecting legitimate different traditions. Unity in diversity is paramount❤️🤗
@@OrthodoxTradition Yes, in doctrine there cannot be contradictions because the faith has been revealed by Christ. But there can be different forms of worship and saint devotions (small t traditions). God Bless
if the Holy Fire is from God or Man, if they reply God, one must wonder how a church they consider Graceless is still the one that receives it (and the other annual miracles), and if they say it's from man, they are at a loss to account for the hagiography of St. Tounom the Emir. They must say that it was from God then and then suddenly, whilst still identical to the original miracle, has now become a fabrication, or they must deny the hagiography and tradition of it. Either case puts them in a bad predicament
Welcome to how it feels like to be a Catholic right now. Note that we have the advantage of having just one guy in charge and not have 10 bishops excommunicating one another...
@@OrthodoxTradition Oh I see I didn’t know that…next question: I noticed that the Church of Greece has been a member of WCC since 1948 and Serbian Church a member since 1965 but I don’t recall that Saint Justin Popovic, Saint Porphyrios or Saint Paisios ever separated from the Church despite all of the ecumenism that was going on during their time so now I’m a little bit confused
Saint Justin Popovich did stop concelebrating and commemorating the Patriarch. We also heard that he sent people to our Churches in Greece. Saint John of San Francisco, St. Philaret of New York, St. John of Amphiali, St. Hieronymos of Aegina and many other Saints followed the path of the Holy Fathers.
Mănăstirea Slătioara - sediul Mitropoliei in dreapta credință ( Suceava/România). Aici sunt sfintele moaște ale Sfântului Ierarh Glicherie Mărturisitorul.
You closed your doors and complied with restrictions. You refused to confess Faith and bare Witness. Instead you conceded that gathering in the name of the Lord and partaking in his Blood and Body was less important than state health requirements. You've yet to repent. Spare me with who you call a heretic.
Even though you are slandering, there is nothing in the canons about "closing the doors" as you say. But, much has been said in the canons, the lives of Saints, and the teachings of the Holy Fathers concerning the heretical "hierarchs" that you are affiliated with. The organization of the "World Council of Churches" has its own ecclesiology, and there is no repentance there....
@OrthodoxTradition you're all heretics until you repent for denying Christ. That includes every Bishop in Greece and the Phanar. The truly faithful remained open and took on charges. Cowards make excuses. Αίσχος!
@@OrthodoxTradition argue the points. It was lay people of Greece that rejected many heresies over the centuries. It was lay people that refused to give incense to Caesar and took execution at the hands of Rome. It was lay people that refused to deny Christ in the face of the Turks. Shame on you for thinking we can't see what's obvious. Just repent for not standing for Christ when it was difficult to.
Let us not be afraid to admit our faults and wrongs dear brother, how than we suppose to live in christ when we preach but so not practice? let us not tell our audience to confess yet conceal our own sins and point fingers the other way. this is not the teaching of christ.please forgive me a jew now a orthodox christian a chief sinner i been all life 😢😢😢@@OrthodoxTradition
I have to say I find the title intro to this video kind of trite and crass - the ethos of the world - rather than of the Spirit. “Phooey!” It’s obviously not bad language, but it’s that shallow point scoring feel rather than in any way exuding something deep and exalted.
@@stalkek Perhaps it would be good to point out that the Saints sometimes spoke in such a manner to get their messages across. And, the Metropolitan doesn't actually use that word in his sermon, neither is it in the description. I guess it's just on the video screen.
Any time comments aren't disabled on something is this polemical i can only treat it with skepticism, personally. Without having watched the video yet, but having read the comment section carefully, i must make the educated decision that watching this will not do me any favors. If youre gonna be hylerbolic and incessantly polemical, and you stand by what youre trying to say, i think comments should be disabled, so that people can only sit and listen respectfully- by leaving them open, knowing what spirits are likely to manifest here, well i would say you accept a certain complicity in this hot bed of demonic activity that were all wading in and screaming at one another through. In my opinion, forgive me.
@@godsaveus4380 I noticed the video in my algorithm, peaked my interest but I'm not somewhere I can sit down and watch it right now? Read the comments to get the temperature, definitely got it.
@esoterico7750 in theory I guess but in practice that's clearly not what's happening, or at least that's only a small part of what is actually happening. In any case most people would probably be better served taking a lot of these questions to their own parish preists, assuming that they do belong to a parish, and if they don't it's probably a wiser choice to go and try to find one than it is to be scrolling screens, right?
Glory to God for all things, may we all be given repentance. May Panagia, The Heavenly Bodiless Hosts - Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and all the orders, the Holy Baptist, and all saints intercede for our repentance. May God protect our Geronda from the malice of the enemy.
Amen
It's unbelievable that they dare to censor these important details from the lives of Saints. The same thing has been done with the original publications concerning Fr. Seraphim Rose.
What was censored from Fr. Seraphim Rose' publications?
what details?
Gotta have a source for that one, please.
@@OrthodoxDialectics ("Little Children, It is the Last Hour"(I John2:18)
Unknown to the fevered Orthodox "revivalists," the Lord God has preserved in the world, even as in the days of Elijah the Prophet, seven thousand men “who have not bowed the knee to Baal (Rom. 11:4) - an unknown number of true Orthodox Christians who are neither spiritually dead, as the Orthodox ''charismatics" complain that their flocks have been, nor pompously ''spirit-filled,'' as these same flocks become under "charismatic" suggestion. They are not carried away by the movement of apostasy nor by any false "awakening ,' but continue rooted in the holy and saving Faith of Holy Orthodoxy in the tradition the Holy Fathers have handed down to them, watching the Signs of the times and travelling the narrow path to salvation. Many of them follow the bishops of the few Orthodox jurisdictions that have taken strong stands against the apostasy of our times: the Catacomb Church of Russia, the Russian Church Outside of Russia, the True Orthodox Christians (Old Calendarists) of Greece. But there are some left in other jurisdictions also, grieving over the ever more evident apostasy of their hierarchs and striving somehow to keep their own Orthodoxy intact; and there are still others outside of the Orthodox Church who by God's grace, their hearts being open to His call, will undoubtedly yet be joined to genuine Holy Orthodoxy. These "seven thousand" are the foundation of the future and only Orthodoxy of the latter times.” - Hieromonk Seraphim (Rose) of Platina: Orthodoxy and The religion of the future (Page 220 Uncensored) Page 184 Censored.)
@@OrthodoxDialectics "Little Children, It is the Last Hour"(I John2:18)
Unknown to the fevered Orthodox "revivalists," the Lord God has preserved in the world, even as in the days of Elijah the Prophet, seven thousand men “who have not bowed the knee to Baal (Rom. 11:4) - an unknown number of true Orthodox Christians who are neither spiritually dead, as the Orthodox ''charismatics" complain that their flocks have been, nor pompously ''spirit-filled,'' as these same flocks become under "charismatic" suggestion. They are not carried away by the movement of apostasy nor by any false "awakening ,' but continue rooted in the holy and saving Faith of Holy Orthodoxy in the tradition the Holy Fathers have handed down to them, watching the Signs of the times and travelling the narrow path to salvation. Many of them follow the bishops of the few Orthodox jurisdictions that have taken strong stands against the apostasy of our times: the Catacomb Church of Russia, the Russian Church Outside of Russia, the True Orthodox Christians (Old Calendarists) of Greece. But there are some left in other jurisdictions also, grieving over the ever more evident apostasy of their hierarchs and striving somehow to keep their own Orthodoxy intact; and there are still others outside of the Orthodox Church who by God's grace, their hearts being open to His call, will undoubtedly yet be joined to genuine Holy Orthodoxy. These "seven thousand" are the foundation of the future and only Orthodoxy of the latter times.” - Hieromonk Seraphim (Rose) of Platina: Orthodoxy and The religion of the future (Page 220 Uncensored) Page 184 Censored.
To those quarreling. It’s a device of the enemy. Instead, read the Athonite Gerontikon “On Heresies and Other Religions”. Your perspective will be edified and enlightened. I don’t think YT will allow me to link it, but it’s easily found in any search engine.
May He deem us worthy. 🙏☦️
с нами Бог
Амин.
поможет нам Господь
A schismatic is one who is outside the canonical Orthodox Church. One must never commemorate a heretical bishop but rather pray for his return to the Truth of Christ.
I'm asking this a as a genuine question and I don't know the context of the video but shouldn't we wait for the bishop in question to be condemned as heretic before taking such actions ?
@@alexmoreau2581Good question! Saint Paul says "After the first or second admonition reject a man that is an heretic". The Church has this as it's formal policy before a council is held. In Greece, the faithful tried to bring the bishops to repentance for 10 years before "walling themselves off". In Russia and the Balkans, since the outward persecution began before the invasion of the traditional structure of the church, this happened much quicker. This is the witness of the Church. If you go through the saints for any day of the year, you will find at least a third of them were not in communion with the "official" "church". Those who preach Ecumenism, Sergianism, and Modernism are anathematized. This means we leave them to God's judgement, and have no communion with them. The saints teach that to commerate a heretic is to share in his heresy. We don't know how God's grace and judgement apply to them. We cannot contaminate the Faith once for all delivered to the saints, preserved to our day.
I am an American convert to a Serbian Orthodox church. I know very little about my patriarch or my bishop for that matter. We are old calendar and I am still learning and growing in the Lord. I honestly don't know what to do regarding this matter, l feel unqualified to even tell if a bishop or patriarch were heretical. Unless it was something blatantly obvious.
If your Church is part of the heretical organization "World Council of Churches," then find yourself a Church under our bishops of the GOC.
Don't listen to schismatics like this. Continue growing in the Orthodox faith and participate in the life of the Church. As long as your priest is administering the Sacraments and is preaching Orthodox Christianity, you don't have anything to worry about. Geopolitical nonsense is not your concern and has no bearing on your salvation.
@CosmicMystery7 Somehow, you didn't get the message. St. John the Romanian would consider you the schismatic, not MetropolitanDemetrius. The other incorrupt Saint, Metropolitan Philaret of New York, also considered the New Calendarists the schismatics.
@@OrthodoxTraditionso you would rather people not go to church at all? You only have 31 or so parishes in the ENTIRE UNITED STATES.
Also are the Georgians and Bulgarians “heretical”?
About 45 parishes in the USA, that doesn't include Canada.
Those who call Metropolitan Demetrios a schismatic, are WRONG! They keep trying to convince themselves even though their conscience pricks them! Isn't that a blasphemy?
God bless!
Schism is one thing a heretic is another he doesn't receive communion with any of the canonical Orthodox churches so that clearly means there is a schism
@@TheHackingWeaselYes, the "canonical" Ecumenical Patriarchate is deep in heresy. You must flee heretics.
Even so:
It therefore seemed best to those who dealt with the subject in the beginning to rule that the attitude of heretics should be set aside entirely; but as for those who have merely split apart as a schism, they were to be considered as still belonging to the church.
St. Basil the Great
Those that support ecumenism is schismatic and so does not follow the Church of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
🙏🏼 This must be true. Because I believe that helpers and angels come from your church. And they can come to comfort and help people even if those people have no knowledge of the church at all. Can't get more real than when you see the real orthodox Christian monks in the spiritual before you know the church, that is a sign of how real you are! I'm absolutely sure of that anyway🌹
God bless you.
Thank you! God bless you too!
Many people agree with you because many have found salvation here.
Yes, and it's true. And many of the type of Christians who believe that it is only possible to have meetings with Jesus. I have heard so many times that they talk about how Jesus came to me this time in a different form and appearance than last time.. but I don't believe that. .I think he has his own appearance. The real orthodox christian saints are given this power, for sure.
Those closest to us and so called believers will stop us of everything, they sucked the life out of me, my livelihood, my identity, resoureses, I still did good for them cared for them gave everything. Then they slander you, steal everything and get others to help them. God help me rise again, they only took, they want me down left me empty traumatized, with nothing, now my home😭but I will still love, so they can have more. Restore my safety home, Please pray for me father🥰🙏🌺I am so tired. I never knew people were so evil. They will leave you dead. I am trying to fast , I mess us, focus on God.
May God help you.
May Jesus help you!
Молете се на Пресвета Богородица!❤
God give to you His love and mercy. May you get a deeper relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ through His love for us sinners.
The pain He went through for us sinners to free us into Him.
I know in my own life this has happened. At the time, I was so hurt, but years later, I saw I was being tested. At the time, I was blinded by the constant betrayals and slander. I gave into my hurt feelings and lingered in self-pity. I am week in my own shortsighted understanding. For two decades, I languished. I did pray constantly in secret, crying, pleading with God to help me.
Finally, my youngest son came to me and said he believed that I needed to go to an Orthodox Church. I have been attending and learning a whole new perspective on what living as a Christian is. I have a new struggle now.
I agree with the Prophet Isaiah,
Lo, for my welfare, I had great bitterness, it is You who has kept my soul from the pit of nothingness, for You have cast all my sins behind my Your back.
The only comfort I know is that God has made a way for my sins to be forgiven and my wounds to be healed in his love and mercies. His mercies are for all who seek him and tremble at his word. I pray for myself and for all who suffer, Glory to God for our suffering and hope.
Remember Saint Catherine of Attica.
Thank you.
Mother Anastasia, of the Sacred Hermitage of St. Paisius.
Most Holy Theotokos save us!
Дорогі во Христі отці та брати Слава Ісусу Христу! Спасибі Вам, що своїм життям намагаєтесь наслідувати Христа в монашому чині, це велика справа і благословений шлях до Небесного Єрусалиму. Бажаю досягти досконалості та перемоги над страстями. Прошу молитов братніх за нашу страждальну Україну і її нарід та Церкву Христову. З повагою, у Господі з любови брат Віталій многогрішний раб Божий і ваш покірний слуга недостойний. Слава Ісусу Христу! (Західна Україна, Галичина, Калуш).
P/S. Добра усім та мирного неба над головою, молімося та борімося за мир Божий в нас і довкола себе! Pax tibi et ora pro nobis.
God bless you!
I agree 100% with this sermon. But who is it saying these words? OCA embraces both calendars! Isn't that whorish?
In order to save my soul I need you to sweep clear of heretical contacts. Namely, stay away from jurisdictions connected to new calendar, a jurisdiction historic or church in resistance with the will and courage to be run by traditional Orthodox Christian hierarchs.
New calendar has caused division and confusion in the Holy Orthodox churches. Who benefits from this disunifying movement? The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? Or the Adversary?
Well stated
While i do love and respect Metropolitan Demetrius and the importance of preserving the old calender. however I think saint paisios is a saint without any question. who are we to judge and deny him the kingdom have we become judges now too?😢 for sure the change to new calendars shouldn't never happened period and caused much pain for us russians,greeks,serbs,Romians really hurts deep inside my heart this. I can't imagine all the hate Metropolitan Demetrios received on such emotional topic. 😢 even today poor archbishop gregory of Colorado has received judgments from thousands of new calendars and sadly even the old calenders have denied him salvation as making him dead to christ and instead of christ being the only judge, you me and all of us have pushed christ away and became self righteous judges. very sad hurts me very much 😢 forgive me, but I will not deny christ to anyone neither shall you my dear ones. we are all sinners with weakness. we can't judge archbishop gregory and as to say there is no paradise for him. if he has done wrong let us forgive him and for he too is our brother and so are you. let our HEARTS OPEN FIRST BEFORE OUR MOUTHS PLEASE BROTHERS ♥️🇬🇷☦️
In christ
This is why we say "Anathema". It doesn't mean "accursed" as it is often wrongly translated. It means "to lift up to God". We cannot judge those who preach or follow heresy, because they have separated themselves from the Church.
100%
Are you the same as The Genuine Orthodox Church of America?
Are you talking about Gregory of Colorado, who tried to take our name?
www.roacusa.org/htdocs/2004Protocol49.htm
There is no compulsion to compassion.
I am a Catholic making the conversion to Orthodoxy. I can tell you that the Orthodox church is as rife with nonsense as the latin one, from the leadership to the church itself. I will follow Jesus and know that men are flawed. I already forgive them but I will not lower my mind to that worldly nonsense. If I see nonsense, I will take my faith inside of myself and out to the poor and needy. I do not need anything or anyone but Jesus. I hope that I chose a good spiritual father. That he teaches me and opens the way for me, regardless of our archbishop which is currently creating much strife. If this fails I will keep working and praying. I wont think ill of him or anyone else, never that.
I am used to being alone. Long ago and forever, I have renounced the world of men. If that is the way then so be it. I pray I can be useful to others.
To anyone in a similar path as myself I say carry on. Dont let them change your commitment. We cant judge others. We can only know our own faults. Focus on that. Learn what you must. Do as you are told. Be obedient to your father. If he is flawed in his teachings then you will know through Christ and the saints. They will show you how to obey without forsaking a servant of God. If any flaws are shown, own them and see them as your own as well and do penance. Christ will write straight with crooked lines. Just focus on your path.
Renounce the world but not each other. Love is Jesus's way.
If this is out of line forgive me. If it is insulting to anyone I apologize. If it seems self centered then so be it, I agree. I am not free from self aggrandizing and these chains are my sin. For that I am sorry
If it rings true though, then listen to your heart. Do not lose faith. We have enough disillusioned Christians going their own way. We dont need more. That would just serve the devils purpose.
Part of the reason for Metropolitan Demetrius raising awareness about these Saints, I think, is in direct response to the aggressive ones saying that the GOC is in schism. He tells us that the Saints don't think so. This bishop is not aggressive.
Just my two cents.
@@ServantofGod-zj3jd i dont know enough to be able to tell who is in schism or not. I have learned a lot from GOC teachings and I feel that GOC is focused on Jesus and the truth. I didnt even know about many of the controversial members like my own Archbishop. I feel better protected knowing the truth. It cant be bad if what they say is just the truth. If it were a lie then that would be that. Its better to love in truth.
@@numberslettersstuffWhy are you leaving catholicism? (In my view you are still catholic brother not schismatic even if you 'convert' to Eastern Tradition which in itself i respect) But it is very painful for me to see how a lot of orthodox use some benign theological differences to get away from the true catholicism that is about being the universal Church of Christ.
The true meaning of ecumenism (how it was understood by the Fathers) must be rediscovered.
@@karlheven8328I think your heart is in the right place… but would any of the orthodox saints or catholic saints or fathers looked at the question this way?
@@esoterico7750 Religious traditions are always evolving while always striving to stay true to their original inherent values in the best possible way. There can be progress in the mutual understanding of theological matters that led to schism and one can thus reconstruct a dialogue that never took place not because of theological differences were impossible to bridge but because of communicational/cultural defects that made a reconciliation fail as it was more often than not (like with the Council of Florence where a Reconciliation would almost have been reached if not for geopolitical and other issues with trust and mutual resentment)
χα! χα! χα! πολυ καλο!!!
Κύριε ελέησον!
Can you please explain to me what an old calander orthodox is and who specifically is among them. Thankyou very much 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
If you look at the videos of this channel, you will see videos about the GOC.
That is NO OT AN ANSWER.
speak it out. They need spoon feeding. Ok. No one broke your arm to be a teacher. You wanted your position.ok
@@OrthodoxTradition
I have a lot of confusion concerning the old/new calendar. I am a new convert to Orthodox Christianity and my parish is on the new calendar (OCA). Does this mean that I’m not actually Orthodox? I do not mean a disrespect or sarcasm. I’m just really confused by all the controversy around the calendar and old ritual and claims of this or that jurisdiction not being canonical. Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Leave the OCA and join this bishop.
Thank you for your sincere inquiry. Please continue to search. There are other videos on this channel concerning the GOC. See if you have a Church under Metropolitan Demetrius near you, and visit that priest. Coming to the monastery to inquire is the best thing to do.
Please do not listen to this account. They only have about 31 parishes in the US. Go to your OCA Church
@@danfsteepleDon't listen to this account? Don't you fear God? The account is from the life of an Orthodox Saint that we all recognize! Have you thought that you might be wrong and that you're participating in something very wrong. From an Orthodox perspective, everything Metropolitan Demetrius is saying is spot-on.
@@ServantofGod-zj3jd OrthodoxTradition implies that people should be church-less if they can’t go to a HOTCA parish
I pray we can all soon be united in the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church 🙏 founded by Jesus Christ while respecting legitimate different traditions. Unity in diversity is paramount❤️🤗
Unity in Truth is the only way. May God's Truth unite all Christians.
@@OrthodoxTradition Yes, in doctrine there cannot be contradictions because the faith has been revealed by Christ.
But there can be different forms of worship and saint devotions (small t traditions).
God Bless
In Brazil we have zero Goc church.
We have Churches in Brazil.
@@OrthodoxTraditionwhere?
if the Holy Fire is from God or Man, if they reply God, one must wonder how a church they consider Graceless is still the one that receives it (and the other annual miracles), and if they say it's from man, they are at a loss to account for the hagiography of St. Tounom the Emir. They must say that it was from God then and then suddenly, whilst still identical to the original miracle, has now become a fabrication, or they must deny the hagiography and tradition of it. Either case puts them in a bad predicament
No one mentioned anything about Grace. That's you speaking. There are signs of Grace working in the Roman Catholic church as well. And?
@@ServantofGod-zj3jd there is no Grace in roman catholicism it's demonic activity
@@pasfay2319 I'm talking about right after the split in 1054.
@@ServantofGod-zj3jd i dont understand what u say?
Brothers, can we understand love of the heart ❤️ 😊☦️
Welcome to how it feels like to be a Catholic right now. Note that we have the advantage of having just one guy in charge and not have 10 bishops excommunicating one another...
Concerning the "one guy you have in charge:" NO THANKS!
@@OrthodoxTradition Slava!
What about people living in cradle orthodox countries like Serbia and Romania. Where are they supposed to go to Church. Not a single GOC in site.
They are everywhere in Romania. Over one million GOC Christians. And they are found in Serbia too.
@@OrthodoxTradition Oh I see I didn’t know that…next question: I noticed that the Church of Greece has been a member of WCC since 1948 and Serbian Church a member since 1965 but I don’t recall that Saint Justin Popovic, Saint Porphyrios or Saint Paisios ever separated from the Church despite all of the ecumenism that was going on during their time so now I’m a little bit confused
Saint Justin Popovich did stop concelebrating and commemorating the Patriarch. We also heard that he sent people to our Churches in Greece. Saint John of San Francisco, St. Philaret of New York, St. John of Amphiali, St. Hieronymos of Aegina and many other Saints followed the path of the Holy Fathers.
Mănăstirea Slătioara - sediul Mitropoliei in dreapta credință ( Suceava/România). Aici sunt sfintele moaște ale Sfântului Ierarh Glicherie Mărturisitorul.
You closed your doors and complied with restrictions. You refused to confess Faith and bare Witness. Instead you conceded that gathering in the name of the Lord and partaking in his Blood and Body was less important than state health requirements. You've yet to repent. Spare me with who you call a heretic.
Even though you are slandering, there is nothing in the canons about "closing the doors" as you say. But, much has been said in the canons, the lives of Saints, and the teachings of the Holy Fathers concerning the heretical "hierarchs" that you are affiliated with. The organization of the "World Council of Churches" has its own ecclesiology, and there is no repentance there....
@OrthodoxTradition you're all heretics until you repent for denying Christ. That includes every Bishop in Greece and the Phanar. The truly faithful remained open and took on charges. Cowards make excuses. Αίσχος!
This is what happens when a layperson thinks that their voice equals that of an Ecumenical Council....
@@OrthodoxTradition argue the points. It was lay people of Greece that rejected many heresies over the centuries. It was lay people that refused to give incense to Caesar and took execution at the hands of Rome. It was lay people that refused to deny Christ in the face of the Turks. Shame on you for thinking we can't see what's obvious. Just repent for not standing for Christ when it was difficult to.
Let us not be afraid to admit our faults and wrongs dear brother, how than we suppose to live in christ when we preach but so not practice? let us not tell our audience to confess yet conceal our own sins and point fingers the other way. this is not the teaching of christ.please forgive me a jew now a orthodox christian a chief sinner i been all life 😢😢😢@@OrthodoxTradition
I have to say I find the title intro to this video kind of trite and crass - the ethos of the world - rather than of the Spirit. “Phooey!” It’s obviously not bad language, but it’s that shallow point scoring feel rather than in any way exuding something deep and exalted.
I think the point is that it really is nonsense for anyone to make such claims. The claim itself is crass.
@@godsaveus4380 I realise that but it’s that phrasing i mention I feel myself repelling from.
@@stalkek Perhaps it would be good to point out that the Saints sometimes spoke in such a manner to get their messages across. And, the Metropolitan doesn't actually use that word in his sermon, neither is it in the description. I guess it's just on the video screen.
Any time comments aren't disabled on something is this polemical i can only treat it with skepticism, personally. Without having watched the video yet, but having read the comment section carefully, i must make the educated decision that watching this will not do me any favors. If youre gonna be hylerbolic and incessantly polemical, and you stand by what youre trying to say, i think comments should be disabled, so that people can only sit and listen respectfully- by leaving them open, knowing what spirits are likely to manifest here, well i would say you accept a certain complicity in this hot bed of demonic activity that were all wading in and screaming at one another through. In my opinion, forgive me.
Why would you read the comments and not listen to the video? The point of the video is that Saints accepted the GOC.
@@godsaveus4380 I noticed the video in my algorithm, peaked my interest but I'm not somewhere I can sit down and watch it right now? Read the comments to get the temperature, definitely got it.
wow 😂
The comments are left open so people can ask the Bishop for direction and get there questions answered
@esoterico7750 in theory I guess but in practice that's clearly not what's happening, or at least that's only a small part of what is actually happening. In any case most people would probably be better served taking a lot of these questions to their own parish preists, assuming that they do belong to a parish, and if they don't it's probably a wiser choice to go and try to find one than it is to be scrolling screens, right?